I think you may want to start looking into dragon anatomy (just because it's a fantasy creature doesn't mean it has fantasy anatomy ;D ) The tail looks a bit too short and the arms and legs are too close together on the torso.
I'm starting to get really tired of these comments no offense to you but I was trying for perspective except it turned out completely out of whack and too cartoonish. I really wish someone would try to help me figure out how to make the perspective look better than the anatomy...
Shading would help. As it stands right now, there doesn't seem to be much perspective going on and I think shading would help add some depth to the piece. The legs are farther away so why are they the same color as the rest of the body? Anatomy would really help you with the perspective. If you practice drawing the dragon straight on, you'll get the correct anatomy down. Knowing how the body looks straight on will help you be able to morph the body in your mind and see how it should look at different angle. Foreshortening would happen in this perspective but you did not do it right. You made the torso too small and I see that you're trying to do that with the neck but the way it looks now, it just looks wonky.
And just a word of advice, if you want a specific bit of critique or help, why not actually ask for it instead of assuming people will know what you want and then getting upset when you don't get what you want? You really should have added something to your artist's comments like "This was a practice in perspective but I don't think it came out right. Any suggestions on how to fix the perspective would be greatly appreciated."
Maybe it's just that it's not sharp enough because what I actually did was use a layer mask on the entire dragon and make the back a lot more transparent than the front. And what do you mean by foreshortening?
Well, what happened was at first, when I put this up, I was really happy to get anatomy critique too, though most of the people just said it looked "off" or said something like "the head's too big" though most of them seemed to think that the anatomy was decent, but the limbs looked too scrawny and not muscular enough. But then it went on and on and they completely ignored the perspective aspect of it and I'm just lost on how to make the anatomy fix the perspective.
Anyways, thanks for the critique, sorry if I was a bit snappy at first, just a bit frustrated.
So you are expecting people to read your mind or something? Again, unless you state what you WANT others to critique, how the hell are they supposed to know what you want? People critique what they want and comment on aspects that they want to. You didn't specify that you needed help with the perspective so how are people supposed to know that that's what you want help on? They ignore it because honestly, without you telling me so I had no idea that the dragon was supposed to be at an angle. Obviously, yes the perspective is the biggest problem but it may be so big that no one realized it and chose to comment on the wonky anatomy of the piece instead since that is much more recognizable.
Just making the back more transparent than the front won't do much. You need to actually add some shading in order to add depth, which in the end will help with the perspective. With knowing the proper anatomy, it can help you figure out how long the back legs should be at different angles, how big the head should be in comparison to the torso. It sort of like how with knowing the proper proportions of the human body can help you make stylized people better (cartoony, anime, etc).
I've looked up some tutorials and resources that I think could help you with perspective: [link] [link]
Oh and this is a good example of foreshortening: [link] It's basically that when you look at something at an angle other than head on, the things farther away from you are shorter. The opposite is true for the parts closer to you: they are bigger.
I would suggest looking at the legs a little more, where the muscles connect, and moving where the wing membrane connects to the body a little lower. Neondragon has some excellent tutorials and books on dragons - you should check 'em out. :3
In my history, apparently I've already seen one of their tutorials but it seems that they've deleted them all . And that was my failed attempt at trying to make it look like there was some perspective...which is why the legs look so scrawny, though I really do need to tone up the muscle a bit, but I have to look at a lot more references first. Thanks for the comment.
Mhm, like I said, check out Neondragon, and if you search Dragon Anatomy and things, it'll give you an idea. Horses are good for their thighs and neck, etc, but I think it's just a matter of figuring out where things attach and how. ^^ But still, good work!
I'm looking, just kind of disappointed their tutorials are gone. And eh, I don't think horses are good for the neck, though thighs, yes. I got to ride a horse a few days ago and it looked way too wide to be a dragon neck. Good idea on the thighs though. I don't think it's that they're attached wrong, I think I got that part right, but it's that they're not muscled enough, a lot of people have pointed that out, jsut never got to fixing it.
I don't know, I feel like dragon necks should look more snakelike.
Do you know the name of it? I can go see if I can find it somewhere. And thanks, but I wish I was doing a lot better, since dragons are my favorite thing to draw and I feel like I should be a lot better after doing so much practicing on them.
Mm, it's called "How to draw Fantastic Dragons and Fantasy Creatures," I believe. But there's plenty of tuts and things here as well - I'd check those out before you go and spend money. x3 And don't worry, you're doing fine.
If you look in my scraps, I kind of went on a dragon frenzy when I tried to draw pretty much every dragon picture I ever liked on google , but of course what looks good in pencil is very different from with photoshop, so I still have trouble. Thanks .
I love how the lightning was done, the dragon's anatomy looks disjointed, might want to try drawing some realy animals, horses, bats, lizards etc, from photo refrences, then work on putting the elements together for a dragon. I like the colors for the dragon and background, just enough contrast for the dragon to stand out, but still be part of the sky, would like to see the eye stand out more, maybe a red or white eye?
I would also like to see more spikes down the back....but if you look at my little clay dragons, you will see that is definately a personal prefrence.